del_grande wrote: stiehle wrote:
squirecam wrote: del_grande wrote: danmcneill wrote:
So if I'm reading this correctly, will a person who purchases four one day badges for himself receive 2 different lottery numbers, as opposed to the one he would receive if he simply bought a 4 day badge? Is "room assignment" synonymous with "lottery number"?
If I am reading the Housing Terms of Service right, yes - but remember, a one-day badge for each day put together costs $205 instead of $110. Then again, that brings up a question: can someone buy a 4-day badge and two Sunday badges ($15 each) to get two draws in the housing lottery? (Or, this: get three Sunday badges for $45, then, if you get a hotel room you like, you buy the 4-day badge later?)As for "room assignment" and "lottery number," I think it's synonymous in one direction but not the other; a "lottery number" gives you the opportunity to get a room, so yes, if you have two "lottery numbers," it is possible to reserve two rooms.
Anyone who does this should be barred from getting a downtown room. It requires a 3 day stay, which a Sunday badge does not guarantee.
Exactly. Some selfish folks are still going to find ways to 'game the system', to the detriment of others. But doing so will just cause more changes to the housing system guidelines in the future that will make things even more difficult for others who legitimately need to make changes to their reservations, or cancel them at the last minute, or whatever. Hopefully GenCon staff can identify these people and ban them from participation in the housing lottery.
Apparently, we all need to read the clarification in post 67 - buying 3 or more badges does NOT get you additional times in the lottery; all it does is, it lets you buy multiple rooms once you are allowed into the portal.
Oh that's interesting, I'd missed that clarification. Apparently the folks at GenCon thought of that potential loophole...
Right. However...and this is the "loophole" that is now more expensive for those who choose to attempt it...there is nothing stopping you from creating different Gen Con accounts and putting at least one badge on to each of those accounts.
Each account with at least one badge on it gets one entry into the housing lottery. THEN the number of badges on that account determines how many rooms you can reserve when you gain access to the housing portal.
Overall, I think these changes are good for the community. They make it more fair and raise the costs for those who want to game the system. There is nothing preventing large groups from securing multiple timeslots, reserving multiple rooms and then cancelling the rooms they don't want - they just need to factor those costs into whether or not it is worth it to them to do so.
In my case, I'm still recommending to my group that we all purchase our badges separately so we increase the likelihood of getting earlier access to the housing portal. Whoever ends up with the earliest access time will likely book a room large enough for us all. YMMV - if you need multiple rooms, you're back into that costs-to-game-the-system territory.
The reality is: demand for downtown hotels far outstrips supply. I've gone the last 3 years and have not had a downtown hotel...and I still had a great time every year. These changes make it more costly for those who want to game the system and, as a result, increase the chances that the limited supply of downtown hotels *might* stretch out beyond the first 2-3 hours that the housing portal is open - though my suspicion is that the rooms will go just as fast, they'll just be distributed across a wider range of groups as those who've gamed the system in the past have to reconsider their strategies and the costs involved.
You'll know pretty quickly based upon your access time whether or not the chances are good for a downtown hotel. That hasn't changed in, what?, a decade?
If you don't get a downtown hotel, you can still have a great time at Gen Con. Will the experience be different? Yep. Will it be bad? Not likely as a result of not having a downtown room.
Also take note of the ADA paragraphs - people were asking for those changes last year and Gen Con LLC is trying to accommodate...and it looks like a Wait List function has been added as well (though that's not flagged as new so maybe it was there last year as well?)
Anyway...good luck everyone. Keep your cool and game on!